Thema: Red Steel 2

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Bin ich der einzige der irgendwie etwas Skeptisch auf das Spiel guckt^^ KA im letzten trailer is der durch triste abschnitte gegangen mit null Interaktion der Spielwelt es gab immer nur einen Weg. Dann kamen in jedem Raum(Abschnitt) nen paar gegner die man entweder abgeschossen hat mit der einzigen Waffe oder mit dem Schwert bekämpft hmmt sieht bis jetzt für mich so aus als wird das Spiel nach 30min. Monoton. Aber vielleicht wollen die Entwickler auch bewust die besseren Abschnitte nicht zeigen. Ich hab nur angst das sie wirklich nur Den schwertkampf optimiert haben und sich dann darauf ausgeruht haben. Im Vorgänger haben mir soo sachen gefallen wie die Rummelmission die echt Innovativ war. hoffe man kann in dem neuen auch wieder mit sowas rechnen. Wobei ich mir sorgen mache da Ubsioft gerne mal dicke Knaller ankündigt und groß Hypt und dann wirds mist. Mal schauen was das Fertige Spiel sagt.

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Bin ich der einzige der irgendwie etwas Skeptisch auf das Spiel guckt^^ KA im letzten trailer is der durch triste abschnitte gegangen mit null Interaktion der Spielwelt es gab immer nur einen Weg. Dann kamen in jedem Raum(Abschnitt) nen paar gegner die man entweder abgeschossen hat mit der einzigen Waffe oder mit dem Schwert bekämpft hmmt sieht bis jetzt für mich so aus als wird das Spiel nach 30min. Monoton. Aber vielleicht wollen die Entwickler auch bewust die besseren Abschnitte nicht zeigen. Ich hab nur angst das sie wirklich nur Den schwertkampf optimiert haben und sich dann darauf ausgeruht haben. Im Vorgänger haben mir soo sachen gefallen wie die Rummelmission die echt Innovativ war. hoffe man kann in dem neuen auch wieder mit sowas rechnen. Wobei ich mir sorgen mache da Ubsioft gerne mal dicke Knaller ankündigt und groß Hypt und dann wirds mist. Mal schauen was das Fertige Spiel sagt.

Ich glaube viele wollen das nicht wahrhaben, mich stich aber auch dauernd der Zweifel, wenn ich das "Ubisoft"-Logo in den Trailern sehe. Die Firma hat mich nun wirklich oft enttäuscht und das bei Spielen, die auf den ersten Blick soooo gut aussehen. Und Rest Steel 2 sieht gut aus. Coole Grafik, viel Action und das Potenzial zu einem MEGA Hit für die Wii. Und all das hängt quasi nur noch von einem ab: abwechslungsreiches Leveldesign. War ja bei The Conduit nicht anders, oder? Toller Trailer, am Ende krankt das Spiel an der Einfallslosigkeit. Nur der Multiplayer riss das Spiel noch raus, aber den hat Red Steel 2 ja nichtmal. Ich hab echt Angst, dass das Spiel am Ende relativ abwechslungsarm in den Leveln und Gegnern ist und das ganze nur eine Art Schwertkampf-Demo...
Ich hoffe echt für das beste, dass Ubisoft hier mal keinen Mist baut...

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Wiiman

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Und immer noch. Sooooo viel Potenzial!
Ich glaube, wenn Ubisoft diesmal nur heiße Luft macht, wirds persönlich : /

Interview über das Setting und verschiedene Orte im Spiel:
GoNintendo - Red Steel 2 - Q&A with creative director Jason Vandenberghe talks new locations, new screens/art

ich kann euch schon jetzt sagen, dass das Game der Hammer wird!!

ich hab mich noch nie so auf ein game gefreut wie dieses, und meine erwartungen wurden noch nie enttäuscht!

Interview:



Im zweiten Teil wird auch die Steuerung vorgeführt:

Wird eigentlich in den Läden (z.B. MediaMarkt) Red Steel 2 mit WiiMotionPlus zusammen in einem Paket verkauft? Oder seperat?

Jo, gibt zwei Versionen. Einmal mit Wii Motion Plus und einmal ohne Wii Motion Plus. Das Bundle mit Wii Motion Plus ist bei Amazon momentan nur 4€ teurer, also schlag zu

tom.

So gesehen gibt es wahrschienlich sogar 3 Versionen einmal die beiden, die du angesprochen hast und die Gamestopp-version (Nur bei Vorbestellung), wo (mindestens) 2 weitere Schwerter im Spiel erhältlich sind.
Diese Gamestopp-version gibt es zumindest in Amerika, ob es sowas auch bei uns geben wird weiß ich leider nicht.
(Meine Quelle ist das Caldera-Video wo am Ende das gezeigt wird)

tomasson

Jo, gibt zwei Versionen. Einmal mit Wii Motion Plus und einmal ohne Wii Motion Plus. Das Bundle mit Wii Motion Plus ist bei Amazon momentan nur 4€ teurer, also schlag zu

tom.

Red Steel 2 kann man schon kaufen?!?

edit: achso man kann vorbestellen

DerFeindDesFalken

Red Steel 2 kann man schon kaufen?!?

Nein, nur vorbestellen. Erscheint am 25. März.

Incendie

Nein, nur vorbestellen. Erscheint am 25. März.

ja habe ich auch gerade gemerkt.

zumindest vorbestellen

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EPIC!

Danke fürs Reinstellen!

Ist euch auch aufgefallen, dass der namenlose Held zwei verschiedene Augenfarben hat?

Interview mit Jason Vandenberghe:

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You're clearly very enthusiastic about Red Steel 2. Are you more enthusiastic about this than other games you've made?

If you look at my career, I've been doing this for 13 years now and it's 95% movie games; Bond franchises, Lord Of The Rings games, Godfather... My first game was the X Files game. This is the first time that I've made a game that's really dear to my heart. I'm a huge sword fighting geek, I love the anime style, the over the top hyper reality. Also, I think its fun and watching people play it reinforces that. It's a game that I would want to play.

Seeing as you didn't work on the first Red Steel game, it must have been easier for you to storm in and change everything?

That was actually the job. The team had been through a lot of struggles as they were learning what to do. This [visual] look was there before I showed up and they had a lot of knowledge of the controls. They were confident of the baseline stuff and they hired a creative director and that was me. My number one job was to keep Ubisoft off their back! The second was to help with the world and create the setting.

What did you think of the first game?

I was really excited about the first game. As a game developer it was hard to play, but I could see the team's experience. Even before I knew the team I was like 'Oh God... these guys just needed an extra three weeks.' They were right there. There were issues with the controls schemes and it just wasn't done. It wasn't really finished.

They didn't need much time but they had to do it for launch so the ship date was the most important thing. They did a great job getting it out there. It was popular and it set us up for this. It was a nice introduction to the Wii but it was a little disappointing on the sword fighting front.

When I showed up on the team they had already backed way out of the context of the first game. We just want a fun game - that's the most important thing. So we started there and when we created the core mechanic which was sword and gun at any time - that was a big change - then we set about creating a world that would make that possible. To do that, we needed a world where a guy carries guns and swords. That's not the real world so we could either go historical - nah! - or we could create our own world. It's samurais and cowboys.

Red Steel 2 is perhaps seen as the last big 'hardcore' Wii game on the horizon. After recent sales disappointments, do you feel any pressure to prove thata core game can be successful on the console?

It's exciting. Personally, I call this the great hardcore Wii Jihad! I don't really care about the religious war! Some developers who are making hardcore games for the Wii made a big deal about the separation of church and state, saying (puts on deep voice) "there's hardcore and there's family friendly." F*** those guys! I don't feel that way. I think there are gamers and there are gamers of different opinions and different tastes so the goal was to create games that gamers want and to see how many people like it. That's how operate. I don't think in terms of focus groups and target audiences. That's not how I design.

So personally I'm excited to be bringing a game to Wii that's for gamers and for anyone who has a sword fighting fantasy. It's for us - it's for gaming people. It has something new on it. You can't do this on another platform

If we take away the motion controls, what other things do you need to consider for the Wii audience that you wouldn't need to worry about if you were creating a game for PS3 or 360?

I didn't consider very much. I think it was more natural for us to choose this visual style on Wii because it fits the hardware better. But look at Borderlands, look at Ratchet and Clank: there are plenty of other graphic novel-style games. But this is a game look, I don't think of this as a cartoon look. I'm not following the cinema industry, I'm not making a TV show - we make games. It was a natural fit for us. It lets us run at 60 frames per second!

I think it's different. The marketing team is always interested in the fact that there are 150 million Wiis and they want to sell to everybody. I'm like 'I know you do. Here's my game and we'll see how many we sell.' You can't let focus tests design your game for you. You can't operate like that. You also can't pretend your audience doesn't have opinions. Especially when you're making a game that you love that takes advantage of the hardware and speaks to anyone who has a Wii.

I have a Wii and I'm pretty hardcore and I would love to be playing more cool Wii games but because everyone's retreating it's becoming a self-fulfilling prophesy.

There's are quite a few hardcore games for Wii though; Madworld, Dead Space etc....

They sold for shit, right? In each case we've seen so far we have other circumstances that have to be taken into consideration.

I don't know, I'm no statistical marketing expert. I'm an expert on player emotion. But you look at Madworld. If you make an ultra violent game where you're shoving signposts through people's heads as a core mechanic - I have no problem with that. I played it and I had a great time but if you do that you're going to sell 10%. You're cutting out 90% of your sales because that offends 90% of gamers.

Is that why you made the decision to remove the blood from Red Steel 2?

For me it's not interesting. I don't care. It was quite controversial, all through Ubisoft people had strong opinions. The team like mature games so they were like 'why not? Why can't we do this?' My opinion was that I wanted to tell a story about a goodie. I wanted to play a game where I'm doing good, I'm cleaning up the world one bad guy at a time. That's my fantasy, that's my hero fantasy. When I picked up a sword it was never about I'm going to murder people by chopping them into pieces - that's just not my fantasy. I've played that game - I've shot the heads off civilians in Grand Theft Auto so again I'm not judging. But I wanted this to feel like those guys deserve it and I'm doing a good thing.

So if I'm in first-person and I'm fighting and I cut off the hands of my enemies and they're going 'argghhh' [mimes blood squirting from limbs] or they're hopping around or lying on the ground with one leg cut off, begging for death I don't feel like a hero. That's not part of my hero fantasy and in first person I don't see how you can get away from that.

Also if you put that kind of violence in the game, that's all people talk about. I want people to talk about the sword.

Presumably removing the blood opens your game to a wider audience as well...

It is also convenient. I'm not going to say it's a bad marketing decision. It's a good marketing decision. You wouldn't believe me anyway if I said that wasn't part of the f***ing decision. When I showed up they didn't know. One group wanted this and one group wanted this. I sat back, I looked at it and thought f*** it, I want to spend my engine technology on animation and a cool looking character rather than a whole system for decapitation because we have enough problems as it is and it fits my hero fantasy.

Too much violence will look really strange. It's even more surreal when you add violence in this hyper cel-shaded world.

Is it difficult to work with MotionPlus?

Oh yeah. But not because of the MotionPlus - It's because of people. There's one thing that everyone does differently. Some people just swing the sword while some people do a whipcrack. There's a ton of stuff that human beings do that we have to accommodate for. The MotionPlus is just a gyroscope. Synchronisation is tricky but Nintendo were very helpful with that.

Do you think that's why not many developers have used it? Because it's difficult?

My argument may be controversial. People often ask if this is going to revolutionise gaming. My answer is that this revolutionises games where you're holding something in your hand and swinging it. That includes baseball, cricket, tennis and sword fighting. It's the one category of experience that's been completely unavailable until now.

Is motion control going to revolutionise the RTS genre? Maybe someone will prove me wrong but I seriously doubt it. Is World Of Warcraft suddenly going to change its interface, put MotionPlus in and gain 100,000 subscribers? I think not!

I think motion control is revolutionary for specific genres and it will open up new categories for stuff as we go and the rest of gaming can move on. So the answer to your question is there aren't that many people making these kinds of games because we haven't been able to until now. Until Sony is done with their thing and until Natal comes out you can only make them on the Wii.

How are you going to persuade Wii owners to buy Red Steel? Why should they buy this before any other Wii game this year?

Because it's the best one! Do you like sword fighting? I've got something that no one else has. You can beat guys to death with your sword and you'll really feel like you're making contact. I think we've got the most unique experience on Wii and we've got the best reason to own MotionPlus. So if you've got a MotionPlus this is the best way to take advantage of it. And it's a hell of a lot of fun - it's simple good time entertainment.

Do you think you'll help bring core gamers back to Wii?

If any game can do it, we can. I think we've got a great chance of bringing people back to Wii. If you haven't played on your Wii for a while we've got the game for you.

On the subject of core gamers, we've heard that Red Steel 2 is actually quite difficult in places?

We took the time to polish the learning curve. So far everyone can play it. But if you're playing on Ninja difficulty the game will kick your ass in a few places and you've really got to move.

If you're having trouble with specific bosses - tough shit, they're tough. The game shifts up its difficulty after an hour or too. I would be surprised if people said it was too hard. If people have trouble, they should go back and practise. On the other hand if you want a hard experience go and play it on ninja because the final boss still kicks my ass.

The in-game tutorial, which features a live-action lifestyle model, seems to have made some people rather angry here?

The Wii girl? It's because she's not part of the world. I've had two hardcore reviewer guys [complain]. One from Norway asked 'was Nintendo's thumb on you?' I think it's so jarring. But it was the only way to get people's attention and people will look at the motion. She is doing the motion we expect you to do. Nothing else worked.

Couldn't you have let people get on with it and work it out for themselves?

How good a swordfighter are you? I don't know! Half the people who play the game can naturally swing it like a weapon while the other half were lost as to what they were doing physically and that's a really frustrating experience. Even hardcore gamers will swing the sword like they're ringing a bell. That's not how you swing a sword - you have to follow through. The reason [the video is] in there is because nothing else worked.

Wii Interview: Red Steel 2 Interview - ComputerAndVideoGames.com

Preview 1:

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Ubisoft went virtually radio silent after it debuted Red Steel 2 at the Electronic Entertainment Expo last year. Our lack of coverage over the game since then wasn't by our choice: we loved what we saw out of the Wii Motion Plus sequel in its early form, and have been aching to play more of it after its E3 premiere. Red Steel 2 is being prepped for a late March release in the US, and in anticipation of the game's launch, Ubisoft held a demo for the game earlier this month where we could play through the early parts of the near finished first person adventure.

Now, I say "adventure" and not "shooter" simply because, like Metroid Prime – the game that coined the First Person Adventure namesake – Red Steel 2 is less about "shooting" than it is "everything else." You'll be hopping ledges, climbing ladders, flipping switches and other non-shooting elements. Ubisoft told me at the demo that you could pretty much play the entire game without drawing your gun, and I can certainly see how that can be the case in my early run through. I, of course, did draw my gun to headshot a few baddies with a satisfying "kerbang!", but to be honest there are far more opportunities for swordplay in Red Steel 2 and, well, it's just a lot more fun swinging the remote to slam bad guys into submission.

If you haven't been following the Red Steel 2 deal, here's a refresher. First, other than having the same name, Red Steel 2 has nothing to do with the launch title Red Steel. The game has its own story, its own lead character, and its own universe: a unique East meets West crossbreeding of samurais and cowboys. Oh, and the world has an abundance of futuristic technology. Second, this game requires the Wii Motion Plus peripheral. It won't work without it: the sword play and part of the first-person shooter controls depend on the higher sensitivity of the Nintendo peripheral.

In Red Steel 2 you play as a nameless swordsman, the last member of a clan known as the Kusagari. After being dragged through the desert by the Jackal clan, you rush back to find your katana and exact your revenge. As you work your way through the missions you'll learn more about your clan as well as the Jackals, including the quest for a stolen Katana.

The gameplay itself is similar to the original, but everyone was asking the question while I was playing it: does it play as badly as the original Red Steel? And no offense to those who actually liked the first game in the series, but that title suffered from "Launch Title-itis," and the control was, honestly, kind of crummy. That's not surprising since developers had very little time to fine-tune Wii pointer and motion controls for their first-gen Wii titles. Red Steel 2, thankfully, does not suffer from these problems.

You might not dig the controls in their default settings, but luckily right from the start you have access to a totally in-depth options menu to tweak the controls to suit your tastes. You can tweak the speed of rotation and vertical look, adjust the size of the pointer's dead zone, and loosen up the sensitivity of the Wii Motion Plus. There's even a setting for "off screen rotation" where the Wii Motion Plus will continue to calculate how far you're pointing away from the sensor bar, and enable you to speed up the rotation even faster. Any time you kick over to the options menu you can see, in real time, your adjustments in a neutral territory so you don't have to worry about interrupting a mission or whether you'll get killed because you wanted to tighten up the pointer controls.

The Wii Motion Plus noticeably spices up the swordplay. Not only does it recognize horizontal and vertical swipes as well as direct stabs forward, it recognizes subtle and hard attacks depending on how fast you're swiping the Wii remote. In fact, there are enemies within Red Steel 2 that require hard attacks to break their armor before you can take them down proper – wimpy slashes won't have any effect until their shielding is gone.

The sword swinging isn't exactly 1:1 like it is in Wii Sports Resort, but this is something we knew about since the E3 demo: the way the game's designed, you slash the remote and then the game calculates what you did and represents it as an attack a split-second later. It seems like something like this would be ripe for lag, but it feels pretty natural and you really won't even notice the millisecond between controller slash and on-screen attack.

Now I wish I could say that it was flawless, but it isn't. In my early playthrough some attacks were represented as stabs and diagonal slashes couldn't decide between horizontal or vertical. And the finisher moves – the gesture attacks you make after an enemy's been weakened – are clearly using old-school Wii remote motions because they can be faked in a different direction than what the attack requires. For example, there will be a "downward slash" gesture icon over a weakened foe, but you can activate the finisher by swiping upwards – it's only looking for motion in these instances, not the specific direction.

But even though it's still not a perfect Wii Motion Plus product, it is still a very fun game with good, tight control where it counts. The lock-on technology keeps the action snappy by keeping your character pointed to the closest threat, so you can take him down without focusing too much on camera aiming. The developers implement some decent tech to keep players looking forward even when pulling the remote away from the screen to swipe the sword: the reticule will shift from its "aim" target to a simple dot when you're slashing the Wii remote, locking the camera so that before and after an attack the viewpoint doesn't stray from the action.



I was only allowed to plow through the first few missions, but these at least show the variety of levels and the balance and variety they have. In some you'll just have to take down waves of bad guys from the other clan, while in others you'll have to seek out their trucks and blast them out of commission. Along the way you'll find crates, barrels, bottles and other items that can be opened and smashed for cash, and you'll turn this extra money into additional moves and weapon upgrades. There are even hidden treasures like Sheriff Stars tucked away that'll earn you even more money. And performing special moves on downed foes increase the amount of cash they'll drop.

And I definitely have to say that the game looks great. The 3D engine runs at 60 frames per second almost the entire time (the developer said that I might see a drop when there are more than a half dozen enemies on the screen, but so far so good), and the cel shaded style works extremely well for the game's fictional Samurai Cowboys with Technology universe. The voice acting is a bit hit or miss during the pre-rendered cutscenes, but I've certainly heard far worse in other big-budget productions.

Red Steel 2 is set for release in late March, and while I still have a ways to go in this adventure, I think it's pretty safe to tell you to put this one on your radar. This looks like it could be one of the top Wii games of the year.

Red Steel 2 Hands-on - Wii Preview at IGN

Preview 2:

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About five minutes into Red Steel 2, you'll completely forget the disappointment of Red Steel. You'll forget the crapped out controls, throwaway plot, muddy graphics, and the rushed-to-completion feel of Red Steel's gameplay. All gamers wanted from Red Steel (and the Wii itself) was real-feeling sword action, and now, four years later, the Wii is delivering. Red Steel 2's sword combat actually works; playing it makes you feel like a katana master wielding a deadly razor blade. Big ups, Ubisoft, big, big ups.

Fantastic swordplay would have been enough, but judging from the couple hours I spent putting the game through its paces, Red Steel 2 fixes and awesome-ups everything about the original. It's just pure, drool-inducing video game fun. Red Steel 2 looks amazing; The shooting game is spot-on, the Wii MotionPlus-exclusive controls are as tight as a rich guy’s fist, the action is frenetic and non-stop, and while there's nothing heavy and "important" here, it's all-out, kickass jaw-dropping action fun... and isn't that what's really important?

Ubisoft wisely abandoned the "realistic" look of the first game in favor of a cel-shaded, comic book style that turns the graphical limitations of the Wii into an advantage. Red Steel 2 is set in a universe that smashes Sergio Leone-style old west action head-on into pulp samurai steez, then throws in liberal amounts of Mad Max's post apocalypse and sci-fi futurism. It sounds like a confusing mish-mash, but it works. The comic-book visuals and stylish, slick presentation tie everything together in a way that makes instinctive sense, and the non-stop action will leave you breathless enough to not care why, exactly, you're swinging a magical katana at hockey-masked hoodlums in the town square of an 1860s Phoenix-by-way-of Mount Fuji town. This kind of gaming lunacy wouldn't work in a "realistic," gray-and-brown, 360-style shooter, but the bright colors and simple cartoony look take the bizarre setting and make it uniquely badass.

You can forget the plot of Red Steel along with the look. Red Steel 2 does not continue the tale of the first game. Instead of a hoary plot with the Yakuza as enemies, Red Steel 2's pulpy action centers on the player as the last of a race of super-samurai (or maybe ninja?) style warriors who fight with katanas and sidearms. Evil villains called The Jackals have stolen an important and deadly sword, and you gotta light 'em up and chop 'em apart to get it back. Along the way, you'll meet up with colorful allies, train up sword and gun abilities, and generally kick ass all over the place. It's not Shakespearean drama, but you won't care; trust me.

While the interesting setting and comic-book-cool visuals are impressive, Red Steel 2 is really about the fighting, and I'm happy to report that Ubisoft nailed the combat, hard. Unlike Red Steel, you'll be able to choose whether to use your sword or gun on all enemies -- a huge improvement. If you're a sword-favoring guy, you'll be able to run enemies through one after the other without ever drawing your piece. Gun fighters will, similarly, be shooting Jackals' faces without pulling a blade from its scabbard. As you’d expect, though, a combination of shooting and slashing is your best option.

The gun fighting basically works about the same as any Wii FPS: You point at the screen, you pull the trigger, and the dude dies, although you can buy improvements for your gun with money you find laying around or earn by completing missions

Sword fighting in Red Steel 2 works differently than anything I've played, in that it actually feels like sword-fighting. Where Red Steel's close-combat featured scripted animations that responded to basic Wiimotions, Red Steel 2's incorporation of the Wii MotionPlus add-on allows for one-to-one (or close, anyway) connection between the player and his sword. You want to upper cut someone, just upper-cut them. A stabbing motion translates to an in-game stab--You get the idea. After a bit of basic training, the sword-swinging feels very natural, and with a little more play, it becomes amazingly smooth, instinctual and badass. In first-person, beat-em-up style, you square off against packs of enemies, feinting, dodging, blocking, swinging and stabbing while you sidestep and slash, then pull out your trusty six-shooter to finish them off. Enemy targeting has a bit of a difficulty curve, but once you get it, you get it. You will find yourself dancing around in your living room, slashing and pirouetting: Half-hearted waggles will result in weak strikes (or an untimely demise), so you have to "get into it" and deliver death-blows or you’re never going to pierce the armor of some of the more tank-like enemies.

How this will hold up over the length of the entire game is anyone's guess, and probably has as much to do with how you like motion-controls in and of themselves, but for me, it was definitely a great way to spend a couple of hours. At no time during my preview of the game did I notice any frame-rate drops or slowing; the game stays smooth, even when there are a ton of enemies onscreen and a lot going on. Boss battles can be epic tests of reflexes and combat prowess, and Red Steel 2 even throws some quicktime events and safe-cracking puzzles into the mix to keep things interesting.

My simple conclusion: Red Steel 2 is crazy, whacked-out adrenalin-fueled fun. If the full game holds up to the sizable section I tried, this will be a must-play for Wii owners who want to play a “real” game.

: Red Steel 2 for Wii - Preview - G4tv.com

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